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Is This Water Part 1: Impurities





The Mpemba effect is a process in which hot water can freeze faster than cold water.  The phenomenon is temperature-dependent.  There is disagreement about the parameters required to produce the effect and about its theoretical basis.

 


The Mpemba effect is named after Erasto Batholomeo Mpemba (b.1950) who discovered it in 1963. There were preceding ancient accounts of similar phenomena, but lacking sufficient detail to attempt verification. 




Scientists have known for generations that hot water can sometimes freeze faster than cold, an effect known as the Mpemba effect, but until now have not understood why.  Several theories have been proposed, but one scientist believes he has the answer.

Theories for the Mpemba effect have included: 



    •    faster evaporation of hot water, which reduces the volume left to freeze
    •   
    •    formation of a frost layer on cold water, insulating it
    •   
    •    different concentrations of solutes such as carbon dioxide, which is driven off when the water is heated


The problem is that the effect does not always appear, and cold water often freezes faster than hot water.

Radiation safety officer with the State University of New York, James Brownridge, has been studying the effect in his spare time for the last decade, carrying out hundreds of experiments, and now says he has evidence that supercooling is involved.  Brownridge said he found water usually supercools at 0°C and only begins freezing below this temperature.  The freezing point is governed by impurities in the water that seed ice crystal formation.  Impurities such as dust, bacteria, and dissolved salts all have a characteristic nucleation temperature, and when several are present the freezing point is determined by the one with the highest nucleation temperature.


In his experiments, Brownridge took two water samples at the same temperature and placed them in a freezer.  He found that one would usually freeze before the other, presumably because of a slightly different mix of impurities.  He then removed the samples from the freezer, warmed one to room temperature and the other to 80°C and then froze them again.  The results were that if the difference in freezing point was at least 5°C, the one with the highest freezing point always froze before the other if it was heated to 80°C and then re-frozen.


Brownridge said the hot water cools faster because of the bigger difference in temperature between the water and the freezer, and this helps it reach its freezing point before the cold water reaches its natural freezing point, which is at least 5°C lower.  He also said all the conditions must be controlled, such as the location of the samples in the freezer, and the type of container, which he said other researchers had not done.





science.  

What is it good for?  

Absolutely nothing.





Science has laws.  But there is no scientific law to explain how hot water sometimes freezes before cold water.

We got ourselves a loophole.  

Give us one free miracle?  This certainly stands out as a candidate.

Science does not like loopholes.  Math also dislikes loopholes.

This Mpemba effect is a gigantic loophole.  And magic loves loopholes.

Scientists have known for generations that hot water can sometimes freeze faster than cold, an effect known as the Mpemba effect, but until now have not understood why. Several theories have been proposed, but one scientist believes he has the answer.


Theories for the Mpemba effect have included:
  • faster evaporation of hot , which reduces the volume left to freeze

  • formation of a frost layer on cold water, insulating it

  • different concentrations of solutes such as , which is driven off when the water is heated
The problem is that the effect does not always appear, and cold water often freezes faster than hot water. Radiation safety officer with the State University of New York, James Brownridge, has been studying the effect in his spare time for the last decade, carrying out hundreds of experiments, and now says he has evidence that supercooling is involved. Brownridge said he found water usually supercools at 0°C and only begins freezing below this temperature. The freezing point is governed by in the water that seed ice crystal formation. Impurities such as dust, , and dissolved salts all have a characteristic nucleation temperature, and when several are present the freezing point is determined by the one with the highest temperature.
In his experiments, Brownridge took two water samples at the same temperature and placed them in a freezer. He found that one would usually freeze before the other, presumably because of a slightly different mix of impurities. He then removed the samples from the freezer, warmed one to and the other to 80°C and then froze them again. The results were that if the difference in freezing point was at least 5°C, the one with the highest freezing point always froze before the other if it was heated to 80°C and then re-frozen.
Brownridge said the hot water cools faster because of the bigger difference in temperature between the water and the freezer, and this helps it reach its freezing point before the cold water reaches its natural freezing point, which is at least 5°C lower. He also said all the conditions must be controlled, such as the location of the samples in the freezer, and the type of container, which he said other researchers had not done.


Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2010-03-mpemba-effect-hot-faster-cold.html#jCp

3 comments:

  1. I would imagine hot excited water is ‘thinner’ making it more susceptible to freezing when then forced into colder temperatures than the cooler ‘thicker’ water that was just standing around the whole time.

    Bam, mystery solved!

    Now, let’s discuss why is it that cooler water boils faster than warm water?

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    1. Colder water freezes faster than hotter water 99.99% of the time.
      The Mpemba effect is difficult to repeat, and doesn’t happen everytime.
      So, using your theory, why does a only specific thinness trigger the paradoxical jump? What is special about that specific thinness?

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